When I want straight talk about wine, I head straight for Larry Schaffer.
Whether attending a Santa Barbara Vintners event, a Rhone Rangers tasting, or visiting his Tercero wine tasting room in Los Olivos, I can always count on this fervent wine guru for a lively discussion and his occasionally provocative perspective.

Schaffer has a message for anyone who has ever felt fearful of wine.
āFor the most part, American consumers are scared of wine, and we donāt do a good job making them less scared of wine,ā Schaffer said of the wine industry, which, he added, is a good example of why the craft beer industry is growing in popularity. āPeople are not intimidated by beer. Theyāre intimidated by wine. Thereās a lot of misinformation in our industry, and not a lot thatās being done to change that. So if I can do it one person at a time ā¦
āI think people take it way too seriously! If you were in a little village in Italy, youāre given the choice of a carafe of red or a carafe of white. There are no labels, no scores, no intimidation.ā
He starts by throwing out the rulebook. Take the much maligned, low-price-point white zinfandel, the sweeter pink wine bought by many Americans.
āWhite zin is one of the three most popular wines in our country,ā Schaffer said. āGo to Des Moines; go to Omaha; but not only that, go to California. ⦠If thatās what people want with their steak, theyāre not wrong. And yet theyāre led to believe that theyāre wrong, that theyāre inferiorāand thatās just wrong!
āPeople will come in here and say, āDo you have any sweet wines?ā Theyāre embarrassed,ā and they shouldnāt be, Schaffer said. āThereās an old adage in the wine business that people ātalk dryā and ādrink sweet.ā I think that is probably 90 percent of people, that would prefer to have a little sweetness in their wine even if theyāre not calling it sweet.ā

The UC Davis-educated Schaffer quizzes his customers so that he can pinpoint what their palate will find palatable.
āThe first question I like to ask somebody when they come in the tasting room is how they drink their coffee,ā Schaffer shared. āItās a good question to ask because people are not intimidated by coffee. Getting a conversation started is a good thing. Itās a fun thing to do. I want people to feel comfortable drinking whatever they drink.ā
But then he backs it up with science, and it begins to make sense.
āāDo you use cream or not?ā This comes from food research at Cornell University. It doesnāt hold 100 percent of the time, but if you drink your coffee with creamāunless itās culturalāyou tend to do that because you want to cut the bitterness. Sugar doesnāt cut bitterness, but cream does,ā Schaffer said.
āIf you need cream in your coffee, you donāt like bitter things; you tend to have more bitter taste buds. So if you drink coffee with cream, youāre going to be drawn to sweeter things and not savoryāoverall sweeter chocolates, not unsweetened, bittersweet chocolates. Tonic water, you will not like. Things like beers, youāll like lighter beers, not IPAs or bitter beers. Brussels sprouts and asparagus, generally youāre not going to like them unless theyāre covered in bacon or sweetened. So, those people tend to like smooth wines in general. Donāt give them brut champagne; theyāre not going to enjoy it. Theyāll tend to enjoy whites that have more barrel fermentation and roundness to them. Same on the red side; theyāre not going to like rough edges.ā
He drinks his coffee without cream or sugar, therefore, he pointed out, his mouth is a fan of bitter tastes.

āI drink my coffee black with a couple shots of espresso, not because I need the caffeineāyou know that Iām a naturally hyper person. I have less bitter taste buds; I need more ābitterā to excite my taste buds, and I need more acid. I have yet to have a red wine that is too tannic and Iāve yet to have a white wine thatās too acidic.ā
Schaffer, formerly the enologist at Fess Parker Winery, started his own wine label in 2007, Tercero Wines, focusing on Rhone grape varieties sourced from many fine Santa Barbara County vineyards: Larner, Tierra Alta, Thompson, Camp 4, and Vogelzang, among others.Ā
āMy goal with every wine I produce is to have it be a transparent look at that vineyard, that vintage, that variety, or that blend, and my level of knowledge, expertise, stupidity, whatever it is, at the time that Iām making it,ā he said.
Super for summer sipping, the Tercero mourvedre rosƩ ($22), with fruit from the Happy Canyon AVA, brings out passion fruit and papaya.
āI want this to be a food wine,ā he said. āItās a wine Iām really, really proud of!ā
Verbiage Blanc is Terceroās white Rhone-style blend: 40 percent roussanne, 30 percent grenache blanc, 30 percent viognier.
āI love roussanne! I wanted to show off the richness of roussanne. The viognier gives it an acidic backbone,ā he explained.
The Outlier is Terceroās aromatic gewürztraminer, which finds the balance between sugar and acid, āgiving you the perception of sweetness,ā he said. āI make this wine specifically to go with Indian food and Thai food. Itās a completely selfish wine.ā

On the red side, Schaffer also handcrafts grenache, syrah, mourvedre, and red Rhone blends.
Schaffer travels tirelessly, meeting with consumers and avidly promoting his wines and the Santa Barbara County wine region that he holds so dear.
He will be pouring Tercero wines June 27 at the annual Santa Barbara Wine Festival at the Santa Barbara Natural History Museum (sbnature.org) and July 11 at the Garagiste Festival in Los Angeles (californiagaragistes.com) and creating new fearless tasting fans and friends, no doubt.
Sun wine and food columnist Wendy Thies Sell never stops learning. Contact her at wthies@santamariasun.com.
This article appears in Jun 25 – Jul 2, 2015.

